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		<title>Comment on PHP vs ASP.NET by David Waller</title>
		<link>http://www.hwhappy.co.uk/2006/12/11/php-vs-aspnet/#comment-4713</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 11:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't think costs are as important as you might think for it is certainly easy enough to design an code in .Net without having to spend a penny.  While hosting costs for.net are higher than PH P the gulf isn't great.  You do however, have a point when comparing mysql and SQL server hosting as SQL server hosting can be considerably more expensive.  If you don't need a SQL server hosting then the cost between asp.Net and PHP is negligible.

For ease of use and cleaner programming I would always favour .net over vanilla PHP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think costs are as important as you might think for it is certainly easy enough to design an code in .Net without having to spend a penny.  While hosting costs for.net are higher than PH P the gulf isn&#8217;t great.  You do however, have a point when comparing mysql and SQL server hosting as SQL server hosting can be considerably more expensive.  If you don&#8217;t need a SQL server hosting then the cost between asp.Net and PHP is negligible.</p>
<p>For ease of use and cleaner programming I would always favour .net over vanilla PHP.
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		<title>Comment on Why PHP is better than ASP by Niko Bellic</title>
		<link>http://www.hwhappy.co.uk/2006/11/30/why-php-is-better-than-asp/#comment-4176</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 03:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>the best part is that php is so over-used  (that's a good thing) that solutions already exist. With asp (which I still love) doing anything means having to re-invent the wheel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the best part is that php is so over-used  (that&#8217;s a good thing) that solutions already exist. With asp (which I still love) doing anything means having to re-invent the wheel.
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		<title>Comment on Why PHP is better than ASP by RonnyZenn</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I used to code with both ASP and PHP but in some point i just thought it's enough to be so dependent on microsoft and switch to PHP permanently.Apart from development variables, i think the best thing about PHP is there're millions of resources out there but when it comes to ASP, you nearly have to pay for everything or you just can't find any answer.

But there's also a good point of ASP, if you're not actually a programmer and don't want to spend so much time learning the principles of it but just want some kinda dynamic site you develop yourself, ASP is the way to go. As VB itself, ASP is also a very simple language to learn for beginner. However with PHP it might be a bit more complicated. For me the case was opposite as I started to program with C/C++ then start to use VB and VC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to code with both ASP and PHP but in some point i just thought it&#8217;s enough to be so dependent on microsoft and switch to PHP permanently.Apart from development variables, i think the best thing about PHP is there&#8217;re millions of resources out there but when it comes to ASP, you nearly have to pay for everything or you just can&#8217;t find any answer.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s also a good point of ASP, if you&#8217;re not actually a programmer and don&#8217;t want to spend so much time learning the principles of it but just want some kinda dynamic site you develop yourself, ASP is the way to go. As VB itself, ASP is also a very simple language to learn for beginner. However with PHP it might be a bit more complicated. For me the case was opposite as I started to program with C/C++ then start to use VB and VC
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		<title>Comment on Why PHP is better than ASP by Amir</title>
		<link>http://www.hwhappy.co.uk/2006/11/30/why-php-is-better-than-asp/#comment-3160</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.hwhappy.co.uk/2006/11/30/why-php-is-better-than-asp/#comment-3160</guid>
					<description>If coders that you have meet before are beginners if they don’t use drag and drop then it doesn’t make the framework or technology bad. There is nothing wrong with drag and drop if it makes you to produce result faster. Why taking the hard way? You can start writing you code in assembler if you like! Why not develop you project in high level languages?
In many cases you don’t have much time to spend on the project. Second many serious companies doesn’t care if pay small amount to buy a development tool. Since if you produce more then you will cost less for them. If you buy MSDN-premium it will cost about 2000 Euro/Year and you will have EVERY THING you need for developing on the platform. That is about 3 day’s professional work. In my opinion it is worth it and you’ll work more efficient. I’ll like the why how many people gets blind of technologies since it’s free. The cost of tools is nothing compared to projects magnitude and you don’t buy it for each time you are in a project. Another disadvantage of Open Source in general is that there are so many technologies that make the same thing that it make the choice difficult.
Take PHP compared by Java JSP technology. Letting commercial companies take care of development makes it safe for developer since you don’t want to learn a platform that you don’t know if it has any future.  Take technologies such as PEARL. How often is it used now days? There are actual more MS IIS in the world that Apache server. There it goes for Apache fans. I hope that there are always other technologies than only a single one. Since it will create more competition between the technologies and companies. Perhaps there will come something good out of it. But having the argument that IT IS FREE won’t last for ever. As a developer you need robust technologies. Same goes for companies.

my blog is devZebra.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If coders that you have meet before are beginners if they don’t use drag and drop then it doesn’t make the framework or technology bad. There is nothing wrong with drag and drop if it makes you to produce result faster. Why taking the hard way? You can start writing you code in assembler if you like! Why not develop you project in high level languages?<br />
In many cases you don’t have much time to spend on the project. Second many serious companies doesn’t care if pay small amount to buy a development tool. Since if you produce more then you will cost less for them. If you buy MSDN-premium it will cost about 2000 Euro/Year and you will have EVERY THING you need for developing on the platform. That is about 3 day’s professional work. In my opinion it is worth it and you’ll work more efficient. I’ll like the why how many people gets blind of technologies since it’s free. The cost of tools is nothing compared to projects magnitude and you don’t buy it for each time you are in a project. Another disadvantage of Open Source in general is that there are so many technologies that make the same thing that it make the choice difficult.<br />
Take PHP compared by Java JSP technology. Letting commercial companies take care of development makes it safe for developer since you don’t want to learn a platform that you don’t know if it has any future.  Take technologies such as PEARL. How often is it used now days? There are actual more MS IIS in the world that Apache server. There it goes for Apache fans. I hope that there are always other technologies than only a single one. Since it will create more competition between the technologies and companies. Perhaps there will come something good out of it. But having the argument that IT IS FREE won’t last for ever. As a developer you need robust technologies. Same goes for companies.</p>
<p>my blog is devZebra.com.
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		<title>Comment on Why PHP is better than ASP by pcdinh</title>
		<link>http://www.hwhappy.co.uk/2006/11/30/why-php-is-better-than-asp/#comment-3158</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 07:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>@Amir
You said: Visual Studio is one of them. How many PHP editors are out there that can match Visual Studio.

My question: How much have you paid for Visual Studio? Have you tried Eclipse PDT (PHP Development Tool).

You said: My experience with mySQL is that it’s harder to code and you may often need support for it compared with MS SQL. 

My question: I have used MySQL for 4 years and never need support from MySQL AB. Of course, there are several times I asked about some bugs of MySQL and got the questions quickly. MySQL is very developer friendly and super fast. MS SQL is too expensive and works on Windows only.

.NET is built for application developers who do not need to have any web development experience. I have met a lot of ASP.NET developers and found out that they have little knowledge on web platform, http protocol but they are competent on drag and drop. Without VS.NET, they are very junior programmers.

ASP.NET is not a good web framework. It is desktop-oriented framework. WebForms is bad in term of web standard. VIEWSTATE/postback is bad in term of performance and SEO. A pure ASP.NET application with tag soup dot aspx and code-behind is considered harmful in term of maintainability. Many PHP frameworks are superior than ASP.NET in terms of architecture such as Zend Framework, SolarPHP, CakePHP, Symfony. ASP.NET is not MVC framework. It is actually Visual Basic framework on the web.

ASP.NET is faster? No, give me your benchmarks. ASP.NET is compiled? PHP can be compiled too. Use APC, XCache and give me your response.

ASP.NET is not bad. It is only out of dated or at least, it is behind PHP evolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Amir<br />
You said: Visual Studio is one of them. How many PHP editors are out there that can match Visual Studio.</p>
<p>My question: How much have you paid for Visual Studio? Have you tried Eclipse PDT (PHP Development Tool).</p>
<p>You said: My experience with mySQL is that it’s harder to code and you may often need support for it compared with MS SQL. </p>
<p>My question: I have used MySQL for 4 years and never need support from MySQL AB. Of course, there are several times I asked about some bugs of MySQL and got the questions quickly. MySQL is very developer friendly and super fast. MS SQL is too expensive and works on Windows only.</p>
<p>.NET is built for application developers who do not need to have any web development experience. I have met a lot of ASP.NET developers and found out that they have little knowledge on web platform, http protocol but they are competent on drag and drop. Without VS.NET, they are very junior programmers.</p>
<p>ASP.NET is not a good web framework. It is desktop-oriented framework. WebForms is bad in term of web standard. VIEWSTATE/postback is bad in term of performance and SEO. A pure ASP.NET application with tag soup dot aspx and code-behind is considered harmful in term of maintainability. Many PHP frameworks are superior than ASP.NET in terms of architecture such as Zend Framework, SolarPHP, CakePHP, Symfony. ASP.NET is not MVC framework. It is actually Visual Basic framework on the web.</p>
<p>ASP.NET is faster? No, give me your benchmarks. ASP.NET is compiled? PHP can be compiled too. Use APC, XCache and give me your response.</p>
<p>ASP.NET is not bad. It is only out of dated or at least, it is behind PHP evolution.
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		<title>Comment on Why PHP is better than ASP by Sumo Wrestler</title>
		<link>http://www.hwhappy.co.uk/2006/11/30/why-php-is-better-than-asp/#comment-3157</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 06:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.hwhappy.co.uk/2006/11/30/why-php-is-better-than-asp/#comment-3157</guid>
					<description>#2; just because a language is more popular, doesn't mean it is better!
#4 and #6 are self contradictory!
#8 mod_rewrite is an apache module and has nothing to do with PHP! 

Despite these fallacies in your argument, I agree that PHP is a way superior language to VisualBasic! Unfortunately you make a poor argument for it. Try operating on binary data files with Visual Basic. Yikes! Try doing anything with arrays in Visual Basic. Double Yikes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2; just because a language is more popular, doesn&#8217;t mean it is better!<br />
#4 and #6 are self contradictory!<br />
#8 mod_rewrite is an apache module and has nothing to do with PHP! </p>
<p>Despite these fallacies in your argument, I agree that PHP is a way superior language to VisualBasic! Unfortunately you make a poor argument for it. Try operating on binary data files with Visual Basic. Yikes! Try doing anything with arrays in Visual Basic. Double Yikes!
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		<title>Comment on Why PHP is better than ASP by pcdinh</title>
		<link>http://www.hwhappy.co.uk/2006/11/30/why-php-is-better-than-asp/#comment-3084</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.hwhappy.co.uk/2006/11/30/why-php-is-better-than-asp/#comment-3084</guid>
					<description>ASP is behind the times technology. Only poor programmers can use ASP to do their jobs because they don't want to care where current technology world will advance.

Please have a look at http://pecl.php.net/packages.php to see unlimited possibility of PHP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ASP is behind the times technology. Only poor programmers can use ASP to do their jobs because they don&#8217;t want to care where current technology world will advance.</p>
<p>Please have a look at <a href="http://pecl.php.net/packages.php" rel="nofollow">http://pecl.php.net/packages.php</a> to see unlimited possibility of PHP.
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		<title>Comment on Why PHP is better than ASP by den</title>
		<link>http://www.hwhappy.co.uk/2006/11/30/why-php-is-better-than-asp/#comment-3081</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>PHP Foreva !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PHP Foreva !!!
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		<title>Comment on Why PHP is better than ASP by zach</title>
		<link>http://www.hwhappy.co.uk/2006/11/30/why-php-is-better-than-asp/#comment-3061</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I live by PHP. a friend tried to talk me into learning ASP.NET, but after all the effort i went through just to install it, I was already over it. PHP is king. MySQL is Queen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live by PHP. a friend tried to talk me into learning ASP.NET, but after all the effort i went through just to install it, I was already over it. PHP is king. MySQL is Queen.
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		<title>Comment on Why PHP is better than ASP by Keyser Engelberth</title>
		<link>http://www.hwhappy.co.uk/2006/11/30/why-php-is-better-than-asp/#comment-3058</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Gr8 news!! to find people that understand the php concept. Php has now began to revolution the OOP, We've got now PHP6 object oriented check this out http://www.corephp.co.uk/archives/19-Prepare-for-PHP-6.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gr8 news!! to find people that understand the php concept. Php has now began to revolution the OOP, We&#8217;ve got now PHP6 object oriented check this out <a href="http://www.corephp.co.uk/archives/19-Prepare-for-PHP-6.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.corephp.co.uk/archives/19-Prepare-for-PHP-6.html</a>
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